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Post by hermione13snape on Mar 28, 2006 10:54:46 GMT -5
Okay then but I can't get over it! End of story!
I know some of the people that bullied me hasn't changed! I can't just go out there with a smile on my face, because my life is not a few sad moments, it is a few happy moments! And what are you talking about off topic, the Snape's Worst Memory scene is in OotP and that is what we are analysing.
And I am not generalizing, it's true like I said pretty popular kids have always treated me like I don't matter! I have never fitted in Like Snape! Where I lived last time there was a group of people I once knew we nicknamed the Beautiful People and no we didn't get on with them as they stuck to themselves.
Have you guys (now this is off topic) watched Never Been Kissed, that girl in there is me! Me then and me now! I can't just say my life is now cool, because it's not.
I am stuck at home, I suffer from Agoraphobia, I can just about wake up in the morning but there is no purpose to my life, the only reason why I am still alive is because of my mother, like I said some of us can't!
As to hating characters because they remind you of someone: er! is not Jo just as childish then in basing Snape on a teacher she did not like at school?
I read books and try to identify with the characters that is what makes reading fun for me, I get into their lives, into their heads, I write stories myself so I know how attached you can get to fictional people in fictional situations. And the characters I can most indentify with is Hermione and Snape, hence my username.
Also as an author you do tend to give all your major characters some part of your personality. I think the Snape managing to hold a grudge thing does stem of Jo as she once said, (I think!) that if you annoy her or make her angry you might just end up being a nasty character in the story, that's a bit Snape-ish.
Winky22 I salute you for getting over your bullying but some of us can't like I said, I can't, I have tried and just as I began to get over it, someone else pulls the plug on my self confidence and makes me worse again, it's something I have been going through all my life! You have obviously had a better support system and a few more friends than me to help you get over it, but I haven't.
The only friend I had at school was like Moaning Myrtle. She banged classroom doors and cried in toilets all the time, again another character that reminds me of one in the books. I can't help it! I read and think. Ah yeah I used to know someone just like that! Heck how I hated them! That's me! And always has been.
I'm sorry if I insult someones sense of aesthetics or hurt anybody's feelings I am only saying how I feel and yet again as always, I get told off for it! What is wrong with being blunt?
As to the person who said that Black felt sorry for how he treated Snape? What the? If he was sorry he wouldn't have treated Snape the way he did in OotP when they were supposed to be on the same side. He wouldn't have been hex ready in the kitchen, no Black was not sorry for what he did to Snape! There was no love lost between the two of them.
It's actually interesting that on one Sunday on BBC2 there was a debate going on, on the Heaven and Earth show about Forgiveness, and one woman gave up being a priest because she found she could not forgive someone who murdered her child. It is a matter of individualism, I can't forgive people who made me feel like I don't matter!
Okay that will definitely be my final word on the matter I just want it clear that just because you can, (hats of to you!) doesn't mean to say others can! We're all different and we all take things differently!
Okay lets discuss something else in the book, erm? Was it just me that saw that Tonks and Lupin fancied each other straight away? I just thought that the first interaction held some sort of electricity between them.
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Post by ringo on Mar 28, 2006 13:25:31 GMT -5
Ok,I am glad that everybody on here has an opinion on bullying,and it is good that you all have the right to get it off your chest,and may I say that all of us at one point or another has been bullied to somepoint,maybe not at school,maybe not physical etc,but there are tonnes of ways dealing with bullying,so the point is made....
Bullies Suck Eggs....Big Time....
It was not an off-topic,it was to do with Snape/Black/Pettigrew bullying,so I did not step in,but now time to move on to other topics,and I am glad to see that Hermione13Snape has done just that.....
For me,I always thought that Tonks should go with Snape.....!!!!!I am kidding....
Yeah,indeed some spark between those two....
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Post by candescence on Mar 28, 2006 14:00:37 GMT -5
Yes, good new subject...I like Tonks and Lupin and could see the sparks there. They are one of the better couples in the books IMO actually. But then I just adore Lupin anyway...
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Post by EmmyMik on Mar 29, 2006 19:13:40 GMT -5
You know, I'm such a shameless shipper (long live R/Hr!). However, OotP is probably one of the only books that I haven't looked over for any shippy moments. It probably doesn't help that I've only read the book 3 times.
Perhaps when I finish reading HBP, I'll read it again (who am I kidding? I'm just going to start the series over again)...
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Post by hermione13snape on Mar 30, 2006 6:01:12 GMT -5
Yes, good new subject...I like Tonks and Lupin and could see the sparks there. They are one of the better couples in the books IMO actually. But then I just adore Lupin anyway... They are the only cool couple as they are more aimed at the adult readers like me and you. I want to take this opportunity to say my username is not a shipping statement -  You'll be surprised how many people think that! Although it is a couple I'd prefer to happen than the most obvious of Hermione and Ron. I knew they were going to end up together from minute one, and the same with Harry and Ginny, (it doesn't make it fun when you know who's going to end up with who I can tell you!) I don't even believe there were people out there who thought Harry and Hermione were going to end up together. I prefer unobvious romances, which is why I love reading Dickens so much. I adore Lupin too  candescence, as you see he's favourite character number 3. I am thinking of sending that list to Jo herself, I have written to her in the past, and she has replied back twice, the other times was her agent replying in return. Ringo - Tonks and Snape! You crack me up! ;D a karma point for being so cool! |
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Post by ringo on Mar 30, 2006 13:42:27 GMT -5
Why thank you for the karma....
I would love to see Snape with someone though,I think that he needs to be loved.....
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Post by candescence on Mar 30, 2006 16:20:21 GMT -5
Why thank you for the karma.... I would love to see Snape with someone though,I think that he needs to be loved..... Can I volunteer??LOL!! I like him with Lily myself...but that is awhole different off topic..... |
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Post by hermione13snape on Mar 31, 2006 6:04:50 GMT -5
Totally agree. All Snape needs is an understanding woman who'll love the whole of him, after all true love is when you're prepared to accept someone for who they are, the whole off, if a person requires you to change your whole identity then - hey I'm that person! I wish the film, Purple Rose of Cairo would happen like that when you read a book too much your favourite character would step out. But it isn't. Never mind.
But I don't think that Snape will, Jo did say. 'Who'd want to?' of which I wrote to her and said 'I do!' I think she's amused that anyone would love Snape.
Any back on topic. I personally want to have a whole box of kleenex next to my bed for book 7 because not only are there going to be weddings, (Bill and Fleur's will happen straight away as a symbol that life goes on no matter what dirt hits the fan!) A little later though when Tonks and Remus exchange vows and when she say's I do to him, I'm getting a lump in my throat thinking about it! Perhaps we can ask [glow=red,2,300]emmymik [/glow]to have a Snape shipping thread where we can come up with all sorts of wild theories!
candescence a karma for you for reading through my long owls on the cos forums and for putting up with me, you are obviously a lovely person.
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Post by rainbow on Apr 3, 2006 18:19:03 GMT -5
Heh, I see a turn for Snape.  If he could know about it! One day I read some fan-fictions about love stories with Snape in the leading part. Some of them were very funny, but Snape is really very attractive for women (I'd say, usually for young girls) In one of those fan-fics I read about a such story between Snape.. and..Professor McGonagall! What a fantasy! LOL! But in general it is Hermione who loves Severus and tries (or doesn't try) to attract his attention. And these stories have the happy or sad end... Jo has done well inventing such character as Snape. I like Tonks and Lupin, I agree, it's one of the better couples. |
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Post by Saphira on Apr 3, 2006 21:29:10 GMT -5
actualy I used to do an RP with a Snape as McGonagall, it was fun. Letting Minerva's bun down a bit with the sexy teacher downstairs.  but frankly the Hermione ones sometimes get a little disturbing, I mean most of the time she's at hogwarts she's awfully young... |
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Post by hermione13snape on Apr 4, 2006 9:21:50 GMT -5
Well Saphira in UK (where the books are set!) a boy/girl aged 16 can legally have a child, as we know Hermione was born in 1979 that would have given her the right to have had a child in OotP if she wanted, and if they were adult books.
Plus the age difference doesn't bother me one bit in relationships, I knew a woman who married a man 17 years older than herself, when I was eighteen a 40 year old man gave me my first kiss, so I don't think the age thing is disturbing my parents know a happily married couple with thirty years age difference or so.
Come on I fell in lust with a man older than my dad! (Alan Rickman!)
I am writing a fanfic called Dear Lily where its from Snape's point of view where he does indeed fall in love with Hermione, he was in love with Lily, and he had a crush on Mcgonnagal. So I kept everyone satisfied, I even, and this will make Rainbow proud, made Snape truly forgive James Potter (as I think he should considering he's still alive thanks to James!) And yes it does show Remus and Tonks as being very much in love, (it makes Snape sick at times!)
But as its put on a family friendly site I have made it so that Snape IS disgusted by those feelings he has for Hermione but he can't help them and in the end he becomes a much better person for it!
Something I really wish to happen, though not likely.
Remus is my number one good wolfman and I love it that someone has seen what a wonderful person he is!
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Post by rainbow on Apr 4, 2006 13:59:11 GMT -5
Hermione13SnapeAs I know it's possible to have legally a child since the age of 16 also in other countries, not only in UK. And Hermione could have a child.. but it seems doubtful for me even if they were adult books. I agree with you, the age is not important in relationships. I admit it because I was falling in love in the age of 19 with a man of 44!.. Love doesn't depend on the age, I've never taken notice on it. It depends on nothing if it's real and strong feeling. Certainly, we often can see the reality is full of unpleasant surprises, sometimes the circumstances are too hard to get over them. But I believe, it needn't lose heart. Sooner or later something may change, it usually happens when we reconsider our views on life. Or if the fortune still remembers about us.. And the story between Snape and McGonagall seemed funny for me not by reason of the age, I think they are very diffirent characters. However, it is said the opposites tend to fall in love. I've also read another curious fanfic where the girl which has written it, tells a story about her heroine's love to Alan Rickman which was Severus Snape in reality. Naturally, Snape is very generous and kind in this story, moreover he hasn't a greasy hair, it's only a Rowling's fiction and the Dumbledore's death it is too. The fanfic was very big...There were two parallel lines: Rickman's life and Snape's life although there was the one and same person. I think that girl has learned all the Alan's biography, has read a lot of interviews and articles about him because her fanfic was like a serious romance. The Rowling's characters and Hogwarts were mentioned too. I've read this fanfic with smile and interest, it is clear the author loves Alan and it's not important he is very far from her and she doesn't know him. Love is blind, it doesn't see any obstacles and circumstances, but if one's heart is able to love..this heart is really happy. And these feelings always can be expressed in a creative work. I know it well because I like to paint. It's not important for me if Snape forgives James in your fanfic or not, you've not written it for me but you did it for yourself. If James didn't rescue his life, would Snape forgive him? In any case I believe Snape is a very tender person in deep but he has hardened much. Love might be a true remedy for him. I'm very glad Tonks and Remus have met each other. I agree with you, Hermione Lupin is a wonderful person! And Tonks too.
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Post by Saphira on Apr 4, 2006 16:54:17 GMT -5
16 and 17 don't bother me too much, but I've read some and seen a lot of video montages(sp unsure) depicting her in her first couple years at hogwarts. I'll admit to relationships with older men all of my life(my first husband was 10 years older than me and my 7 year old son has a brother and a sister older then me) however the older I get the younger the girls seem... And the fire and ice of their personalities is what makes a Snape/McGonagall rp so fun, though I don't suppose we ever thought of our charactors as mature as Maggie and Alan. Tonks and Renus do deserve each other, I'm sure they'd have lovely pink and purple polkadotted puppies too  (I'm joking of course  ) |
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Post by hermione13snape on Apr 6, 2006 10:15:40 GMT -5
Tonks and Renus do deserve each other, I'm sure they'd have lovely pink and purple polkadotted puppies too (I'm joking of course ) That one is so funny ! Punk Werewolf cubs ! I love it! Oh yes I do agree that when they use the film Snape and Hermione it is a little sick as she is a child and whatever many people think of the character he is not a pervert! But my one is when she is eighteen/nineteen years old. I don't even want to read Lolita! Rainbow wrote Whoh that fanfic sounds complicated in a Sliding Doors kind of way. Do you know where it is so that I can read it. I started out writing that fanfic for myself but I seem to have acquired a few fans on the way and they want it - so much so that one of them yesterday started reading it as soon as I put it in. As for Snape being a tender person underneath? H'mm Neville Longbottoms worst fear being tender underneath? I am not sure about that but I think he is sensitive, and I think that he cares more than he lets on but I think tenderness is something he lost as a child.  But yes what would redeem Snape is someone to love him for WHO he is and not for WHAT he is. The reason why we all want to be liked and loved. Any kind of love it doesn't have to be romantic love, it could be a friendship type of love or a sibling type of love. Perhaps Lily tried to do that and was almost getting there until.... anyway lets get back on track, the amount of diversions we have on this topic. I loved the chemistry between these two right from the off and I must say that when I found out at the end of HBP I wasn't at all surprised as like I said before I saw, and felt it, right from the beginning, and I am surprised Hermione didn't in the books as she's supposed to be good on emotions and she didn't pick it up, unless she did but as we get stuck on the Harry filter we didn't see it as it wouldn't have been something that would have interested Harry. |
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Post by rainbow on Apr 9, 2006 15:01:13 GMT -5
Hermione13SnapeYes, I do. But I'm not sure you could read this fanfic because it's written in Russian. There is a Russian site where a lot of Rowling's fans place their fanfics. This one I told about, is placed there too. It may be so considering his unhappy childhood. But it's difficult to say for sure what Snape could be if someone melted the ice in his heart. Heh..I've read different points of view on this question and I can say the most of Snape's fans believe that he is good, tender and sensitive underneath. You are right, any kind of love is wonderful. And the true friend is a destiny's gift and that one who has him, is a really lucky person. I've just finished to read your fanfic and I'd like to do a compliment for you! I like to read books written as one's diary or from the first person because I enjoy much a hero's reflections (if they are interesting, naturally) that show what he has within. Your Snape is like JKR's Snape in your story and at the same time I was reading you between the lines. It's true the author always put his own feelings, thoughts and sensations in his work. Snape is like you at some moments because he can't leave memories about his past, can't set free himself from them. As a matter of fact, it's difficult to find a really interesting fanfic, the most of them are rather naive and not written well, but I like yours one, because you are able to express what you have within. It's not enough yet to have something in the heart and in the head if you want to tell seriously about it, it's necessary to be able to express it by literary ways to make your story interesting for the people. I'm sorry for writing my comments here, but I'd like to thank you for the link and for your story. Would you like to write anything else? For another subject? Writing is a good way to understanding of our natures, I know it because I like to write too and I have kept a diary since my childhood. Later it's interesting and useful to reread all the notes that have been done. And sometimes it's also very funny! Heh! I've seen and have read Lolita, I don't like a book (but I admit Nabokov's talent!). I agree it's pervert, but the film is even worse although after seeing it I was under the impression considering Jeremy Irons' play. But if Snape and Hermione ... Brrr!
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Post by hermione13snape on Apr 10, 2006 6:59:50 GMT -5
Thank you rainbow! I do actually write a lot. I have about 10 different stories I have written throughout my time and one of them I have gone back on after leaving it alone for a few years. I have a fantasy fairy trilogy, a story of a Nazi and a Jew falling in love, an Irish one with a rich young headstrong woman falling in love with a much older man who happens to be a Gypsy. You know forbidden love type stories, some end happily and some unhappily, which is why I am a little disappointed that Jo didn't go down that route with any of her characters. But I suppose she never had that!
Oh and Karma for you!
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Post by rainbow on Apr 14, 2006 16:07:14 GMT -5
Hermione13SnapeThank you Hermione! It's cool you write a lot! As I see your stories may be very interesting considering your imagination. I believe any literature is good except boring one. I very much like forbidden love type stories, especially if they are written subtly, with profound knowledge of their characters' psychology. I write, too and I have a fantasy novel, some different stories and a lot of poetry. In general I was writing much when I was younger, later I had no time for it but now I do write a lot again. I've heard Jo are going to write something else after HP books, this will be quite another thing, and who knows what will it be? Besides that nobody knows exactly what we'll read in Book 7 about although according to the logic of things we can suppose what some characters' lines will be. (heh, but we'll never read about Snape and Lily in her books, but it's always possible to write a fanfic! ) And Karma point for you too!
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You'll be surprised how many people think that! Although it is a couple I'd prefer to happen than the most obvious of Hermione and Ron. I knew they were going to end up together from minute one, and the same with Harry and Ginny, (it doesn't make it fun when you know who's going to end up with who I can tell you!) I don't even believe there were people out there who thought Harry and Hermione were going to end up together.
candescence, as you see he's favourite character number 3. I am thinking of sending that list to Jo herself, I have written to her in the past, and she has replied back twice, the other times was her agent replying in return.
If he could know about it! 
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