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Post by mugglemichelle on Jun 30, 2007 8:44:38 GMT -5
Goods new for those with super fast broadband connections and good luck on their side, the UK Harry Potter website will be broadcasting live coverage from the red carpet of Tuesday's UK OOTP premiere from 1700 BST.
Last year yielded mixed results with so many people trying to access it so good luck trying to view it! I can't even get on the website with what I would call my 'narrowband' internet access. I'm sure local tv stations will have coverage though
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Post by amirab on Jul 1, 2007 12:39:28 GMT -5
Goods new for those with super fast broadband connections and good luck on their side, the UK Harry Potter website will be broadcasting live coverage from the red carpet of Tuesday's UK OOTP premiere from 1700 BST. Do you know when that would be in Eastern Time zone?
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Post by mugglemichelle on Jul 3, 2007 12:49:37 GMT -5
Sorry to just get back to you, the feed started 1hr45mins ago, i think that was 1200 Eastern time
I found some live feed on Yahoo but I was a bit late; looks like a similar set up to last year- in the Leicester Square garden itself with a walkway across to the cinema.
Not many photos around yet, nothing of Alan (but not much of anyone else either!)
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Post by desraelda on Jul 12, 2007 13:18:40 GMT -5
CoS Forums has already shut down in anticipation of the 7/21 release of Deathly Hallows. A bit early in my opinion. On the other hand, I turned off my TV, radio and computer a week before HBP was released, so I have to agree that it's necessary.
One of the reasons I'm disappointed they closed down so soon is that I just went to see OotP this morning, and I'm dying to discuss. For those of you who haven't, possible SPOILERS ahead. I'll move down a few spaces spoilers can be avoided.
Big props to David Yates, Michael Goldenberg, the special effects and the cast. The Dementors were sooooo much better than PoA.
Imelda Staunton was serenely evil. Evana Lynch was perfect as Luna.
And need I say anything about Snape? Yes, of course I must. Instead of the pensieve, Harry breaks into Snape's memory to see SWM (which was much too short), Alan unleashes a cold, but controlled fury. I felt like the slightest thing might set him off into real, physical violence. I also enjoyed Umbridge's questioning of him, but there was nothing about Lucius having given Snape a good recommendation.
Back to SWM ... it was so short with so little explanation, that if you hadn't read the book, I'm not sure if you would understand what was going on.
More indications of the Ron/Hermione Ship. Kinda cute. And Ginny was pretty upset when Harry stayed behind with Cho for The Kiss, which was also kinda cute.
Filch had a wonderful part and I was glad to see him back as the cantankerous old caretaker rather than the buffoon he played in GoF.
So much great stuff, so little time to get into it. But if you've seen it, I'd love to discuss.
I'm definitely seeing it again next week.
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Post by waffl3ookiez on Jul 13, 2007 4:20:25 GMT -5
Possible spoilers for anybody who hasnt read the OOTP OR SEEN THE MOVIE... IF SO DONT READ THE REST OF THIS.....
I'll discuss with you, only saw it uh yesterday yes it was yesterday. It was great, cried when Sirius fell through the veil. (the veil I imagined it being against a wall and a black cloth over it) uh yes SWM was short and I must say though I thought the dememtors looked weird, not weird as in a good CG i thought it was bad... but hey, luna was great, alan was great as always, going to have dinner will blab again soon... cant wait for the 7th book.....
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Post by desraelda on Jul 13, 2007 12:50:30 GMT -5
Possible spoilers for anybody who hasnt read the OOTP OR SEEN THE MOVIE... IF SO DONT READ THE REST OF THIS..... I'll discuss with you, only saw it uh yesterday yes it was yesterday. It was great, cried when Sirius fell through the veil. (the veil I imagined it being against a wall and a black cloth over it) uh yes SWM was short and I must say though I thought the dememtors looked weird, not weird as in a good CG i thought it was bad... but hey, luna was great, alan was great as always, going to have dinner will blab again soon... cant wait for the 7th book..... I thought the veil was pretty good. Remember in the book they were able to walk behind it? Sirius death was done so well. Much better than the book where it happened so quickly that I had to go back and read it again. There was no time to react in any emotional way. But in the movie, I felt his death much more even though I knew it was coming. Fighting beside Harry ... calling him James ... getting goosebumps here. And then Lupin grabbing Harry. (Big Deep Sigh) How did you like Bellatrix? I was soooo waiting to see her in action. She's one of my favorite HP characters, evil though she is. My big disappointment was the fight in The Atrium with Dumbledore and Voldie. It looked to me like Dumbledore just held up his wand with one hand and shielded his eyes with the other. Then there were just all these flashing lights in between. I was telling my mother about this great wizard duel in The Raven between Vincent Price and Boris Karloff. I think that movie is about 40 years old and if memory serves, it was a better fight. But I must say Harry's possession by Voldie had me gritting my teeth. Dan was so good in that scene. I certainly knew what was going to happen and I found myself gripping the chair arms anyway. I definitely agree with you about Evana Lynch. I don't think they could have found a better Luna. And I got a big kick out of the goat in the Hog's Head. Another mistake they made was in revealing the whole prophecy in the Department of Mysteries. Oh, well, we'll just pretend that none of the DE or the DA heard the end of the prophecy. All in all, I think it was a great movie. But I hope my daughter goes to see it soon. She's never read the books, but has seen all the movies. I'd like to see if she gets why Harry is dreaming about the door or SWM.
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Post by mugglemichelle on Jul 14, 2007 13:48:29 GMT -5
[/COLOR][/B] All in all, I thought it was a pretty good version of OotP. I would say it was a 'condense dumbed down' version but due to the size of the book and complexity of the plot they had to. Luna was great, without her and a few lines from Ron there wouldn't have been much comedy and although each film is getting darker, each film needs humour! Every book is peppered with great comedy. Bellatrix was pretty much how I imagined her, loved the evil cackle! Felt there was perhaps a bit too much Umbridge and not enough of other teachers. I love Emma T's Trelawney and was a little disappointed she didn't get a bit more action. Got to agree with desraelda, Dan was good at the Voldemort possession bit. I watched the making-of documentary about the ministry hall so I was in awe of that. I also notice the Ginny 'look' about Harry/Cho. Didn't really like how Cho became the DA scape-goat though. I always thought a scene with her friend having 'sneak' written across her face would have been great. I don't think I'll ever get used to Michael Gambon's Dumbledore. I'd love to know what JKR thinks! Ahh and last but of course never least, Snape Snape Snape. I just loved Alan's delivery of the line "I could vomit" when he was in Harry's mind during occlumency ;D I agree the snippets from SWM were too brief and disjointed to make much sense to non-readers of the book, but perhaps that's how they wanted it, so you're not entirely sure about his past..? I think it was clear that it was James tormenting Snape but it wasn't so clear how Harry felt seeing that. And I think that's about all my rambles for this evening Overall, most enjoyable film
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Post by amirab on Jul 14, 2007 18:55:22 GMT -5
Sorry to just get back to you, the feed started 1hr45mins ago, i think that was 1200 Eastern time I found some live feed on Yahoo but I was a bit late; looks like a similar set up to last year- in the Leicester Square garden itself with a walkway across to the cinema. Not many photos around yet, nothing of Alan (but not much of anyone else either!) I did catch some of it. Thanks for the time. Spoilers I love the movie. I do think it was the best or second best so far. The person who played Luna was the perfect person. I always thought of the character sort of spaced-out. SWM was too short. And Bellatrix was awesome.
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Post by cissy on Jul 14, 2007 22:45:41 GMT -5
Ok, just got in a while ago from seeing it in glorious IMAX. Or so I thought it would be glorious. I'd not seen a feature film in IMAX before. I have a nasty crick in my neck from craning up to see the giant screen. Shoulda sat farther back, I suppose. I think I might be suffering from sensory overload...sooo much to see on that screen. Parts were blurry to me and I kept craning my neck a lot. That said...I'll take my Rickman IMAX-sized please ;D Ooer! Overall impression: I enjoyed the movie immensely. It was very fast paced. I think it was a good adaptation of that huge novel. I would have liked it to be a bit longer, though. Good: Snape (of course), perfectly wonderful in the few scenes he had. McGonagall was great, again, not enough screen time. I finally enjoyed Gambon enough as Dumbeldore--I thought the Ministry scenes at the end were quite brilliant, even though they were blurry to me. I think I need to go back to regular theater and see it to compare Luna's casting is perfect--Evanna captured the "out-there" aspect of Luna's personality wonderfully. Tonks and Kingsley Shacklebolt were both great, even though not enough screentime for either. I liked the Harry/Ginny hints they threw in here and there. Occlumency was great, as was the Interview of Snape by Umbridge. And Imelda is perfect as Umbridge. The Sacking of Trelawney scene played out on screen almost exactly as I saw it in my head. And the way Dumbledore left his office...wow. The Veil scene with Sirius after Bella gets him...wow. Perfect. Bad: Not Enough Snape (DUH). SWM could have been a few minutes longer...I mean, what's the point of casting Young Lily if she's of no use! Only Young James has lines, and the rest of the Marauders you don't see enough. Honestly! I also didn't like the fact that they altered the wording of the Prophecy. Now how are you going to know that points specifically to Harry??? Did like the fact it was Lucius who broke it, hee hee. Not enough Tonks, really. Plus, no "Wotcher, Harry!" I was looking forward to that. I think it's gonna rank right up there as a favorite HP movie. Did anyone else find it cool/freaky during the Occulmency scene when Harry's looking in the Mirror at his parents and then suddenly...Snape!
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Post by actingangie on Jul 15, 2007 0:19:50 GMT -5
Just saw it tonight! Easily my favorite of the HP movies so far! I'll just link to my first impressions because I'm so tired right now *yawn* I would've LOVED to see more with Severus -vs- Sirius and Snape -vs- Marauders. A bit disappointed there, but something's better than nothing, right? ^_~
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Post by ringo on Jul 15, 2007 9:21:51 GMT -5
SO FAR MY FAVE OF THE BUNCH,ALTHOUGH IM STILL HAPPY WITH POA,MORE SNAPE,BUT THIS SNAPE WAS FAR MORE DARKER,IS THIS A NIT OF CLUE OF HOW OUR MAN IS TO BE IN THE BOOK I WONDER....HOPE NOT EH....
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Post by desraelda on Jul 15, 2007 10:35:44 GMT -5
I think we're pretty much agreeing on most things about this movie.
Not only was SWM way too short, but as somebody said, nothing really about the Marauders ... again. Okay, we know it was James that tormented Snape in the movie, but was there enough time for the non-readers to get that? Didn't see Sirius at all, or Lupin, or Lily. They blurred the background.
Tonks ... her hair turned red when she got mad at Moody. She did the pig snout face, but was unreconizable as Tonks. Non-readers won't know how or why.
Bella - I have really never cared for HBC, but I have to say, she didn't disappoint me at all. She was wonderful, and I'm looking forward to seeing her in HBP.
Dumbledore - I have finally given up on Michael Gambon. Didn't much care for Richard Harris, either. Gambon was okay up until the fight in the Atrium and the final scene with Harry. He just doesn't seem to connect with me at all. Dumbledore's death in HBP left me sobbing. I don't know how I'll feel about Gambon doing that scene. I don't see Alan when I see Snape. I don't see Maggie when I see Minerva, but I certainly don't see anyone but Gambon when I see Dumbledore. Such an important character, and for me, they've never gotten the casting right.
Looking at everyone's comments and my own, I think this movie had a lot that was strictly for the readers. Ron's comment about the toilet goes back to Dumbledore needing a bathroom and finding a room full of chamber pots ... our first hint about the RoR. Filch with the mop in his hand during the fireworks scene. Umbridge trying to break into the RoR and falling headfirst into a broom closet ... the twins finding the RoR as a broom closet when they needed to hide. The goat in The Hog's Head.
When I went to see GoF in IMAX, I sat all the way in the last row in the top. It was a wonderful experience. No neck craning, no blurry screne. Everything was clear and perfect.
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Post by billywiggy on Jul 16, 2007 22:03:30 GMT -5
Ok, this is LONG and SPOILERY! I really liked this one. It works as a movie - even though it doesn't stick strictly to canon (indeed, how could it? The OotP book is almost 900 pages long! Unless they want to make a 6 hour mini-series - which I would adore - they must cut scenes.) The things I didn't like-The broomride through Muggle London was ridiculous. Why must they put these non-canon and utterly annoying scenes in the movies time and again? The book was quite explicit about making sure the riders can't be seen by Muggles, and here the Order are - racing through the tourist sites of London, breezing past Muggles on boats. So ridiculous and added nothing to the movie in my mind. -Harry seemed much more sad and lonely than angry. Sure he says he always feels angry, and we see him pitch a fit or two - but overall he seems more alone and lost than truly angry. While I appreciated this new tone for the movie, it didn't jive with my response to the fifth book. Harry is so grumpy and full of teenage angst in the book, that I would have like to see more of that in the film. -Sirius was portrayed as almost perfect. He was almost totally absent in the fourth movie, and perhaps that's why we saw him the way he was in this movie. He seemed much more like the concerned and comforting Sirius from GoF than the drinking, frustrated and jealous Sirius of OotP. They even gave him the 'world is not made up of good people and Death Eaters' line from GoF in this movie. The only nod to the Sirius of OotP really, was when he mistakenly called Harry 'James' during the battle in front of the veil. That was well done (a good example of how one line of dialogue can encompass so much complexity in a relationship), but not enough. And this leads me to . . . -Snape's worst memory was completely downplayed. Yes, James comes off bad - but it's not clear just what Harry thinks of this. We certainly don't see the pain and anguish he goes through at the loss of his father-as-idol. Nor do we even catch a glimpse of Lily. Sirius isn't shown to be the complete and utter ass he is (sorry Sirius fans!), and Lupin isn't shown being in quiet compliance. One of the worst things, though, is that the memory was accessed simply through the Protego spell - Harry doesn't do the Pensieve dive at all. There is no breach of trust, there is no invasion of privacy. There is no real reason for Snape to cancel the lessons. The things I liked-The acting by the trio was much improved. Every movie, they get better - and thank God, because they were quite horrible when they started out (and I'm not even going to get into CAPSLOCK!HARRY and the 'He was their friend!' line delivery from hell.) Dan and Rupert's facial expressions have gotten less cartoonish and more subtle and although poor Emma is saddled with all the exposition, she manages it well. -Ok, this may be a small item (figuratively and literally!) but I really loved the baby thestral. Sooooo cuuuute! I also thought the Thestrals were done quite amazingly well overall - just how I imagined them - and I loved the sounds they made, quite eerie and other-worldly. -Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy was perfect! I love him as an actor - but have thought, up until now, that his portrayal of Lucius was a bit overdone. Too 'mwa-ha-ha-I-am-so-evil' if you take my meaning. He's still got that going on a bit, but in this one, when he's shown trying to persuade Harry - just lovely. And the expressions on his face when dealing with crazy sister-in-law Bella are wonderful! His exasperation and desperation to just 'get the job done' without the crazy lady mucking it up are spot on! -The special effects in general were wonderfully done. When Lucius takes off his mask - wow. When the Death Eaters and Order members Apparate - cool. The fight between VM and DD (more on that below) - amazing! All of these things - just visually stunning! That's not quite how I imagine Apparition (and just why don't Fred & George have those trailing wisps of smoke or whatever?), but it looked amazing and I quite enjoyed it. -The fight between Voldemort and Dumbledore in the Atrium was simply amazing. All that raw power . . . I think the sound system in the theater I first saw this in melted my bones some. The sizzle, crackle and fire of the spells electrified me. It really brought across the sheer power of these two wizards. I will admit to liking special effects in general - but when they're used to good effect in the service of the story to boot . . . heaven! I want to watch the IMAX 3-D version now - as I must see that fire snake come at me. Questions I was left with-Snape letting Umbridge have actual Veritaserum. In the book, he gives her fake potion . . . is this the filmmakers way of making him seen more 'black' than 'white'? -Snape letting Harry (& rest of students in the DA) know that Cho was actually potioned with Veritaserum and therefore not to blame for her ratting them out. Was this just an easy way to resolve the Cho issue, or was this the filmmakers way of making Snape seem considerate (he saw Harry & Cho kissing in Harry's memories)? -Ginny being suddenly super!witch. Are they trying to show she's Harry's equal or something? Her spells seemed so much more powerful than anyone around her - I'm wondering just why the filmmakers needed to add this to her character. We know she's a clever and powerful witch in the books (which we really don't find out until book 6, btw), but not THIS powerful. -Levicorpus (a spell Harry learns from Snape's Potions book in HBP) was used several times - in the DA sessions - and Luna used it against a DE in the battle at the MOM. How were they supposed to have learned this spell? Is this some type of foreshadowing or just basically a screwup by the filmmakers? If JKR reads and reviews the scripts - why did she let this one through? *mind boggles* So, overall, even though it's not everything I'd hope for and yes, there were many issues I had with the film - I did really enjoy it. The acting, the visuals, the effects, the mood - everything combined to make a really compelling movie. Not canon-compliant, truly, but really good nonetheless.
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Post by desraelda on Jul 19, 2007 18:52:25 GMT -5
I saw the movie again today. First viewing of a Potter film, for me, is more like inhaling chocolate ice cream. You know it's good, but hardly get to taste it.
I was more impressed this time with the battle in The Atrium. The first time it was just over (or maybe under) whelming. This time, I was able to see a lot more detail. I especially appreciated the moment when Harry sees the DA and starts to throw off the possession. Well done by the filmmakers and Dan.
Did anyone notice that when Trelawney was being thrown out of the castle, she tripped over a suitcase and there was the tinkle of bottles hitting together? Nice touch.
Did anyone notice Sirius final spell against Lucius? Nasty gesture goes through arm and fist into wand. So Sirius-like.
And this time I actually got teary-eyed when Sirius died.
As for Alan ... whatta dark wizard. Such controlled, cold anger. As always, I forget it's Alan playing a character and just see the character.
Should I go for a third viewing next week? Why not?
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Post by winky22 on Jul 23, 2007 16:06:12 GMT -5
I always hate the movie first time i see it i just hate it when they add things in!!!
#I will like it eventually i just have to get used to it. to tell you the truth there was more thing i dislike than things i liked.
I would love to write them all down but i will be here for days. The acting was superb the special effects also, i like the fact the was more snape in it than than the previous ones. they might as well not put in SWM it was that quick and hated the way harry saw it. The best bit was fred and George's departure. No explanation of percy made my blood boil and umbridge finding the room of requiement. I am going to stop know because i don't want to feel negative about it. My heart belongs to the book to much and thats why i get so angry.
I love Luna she was perfect, wasn't enough of tonks.
hmph
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Post by desraelda on Sept 12, 2007 18:48:38 GMT -5
My daughter (a non-HP-reader) finally saw the movie. First, she didn't understand Luna's character. Every reader that I know thought Evana Lynch was perfect, but then we've had three books to get to know and love her.
She said she understood the movie and was able to follow what was going on, but overall, just didn't like it.
Personally, I think you have to have read the book to appreciate the movie, even though they cut so much out of the movie.
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Post by mugglemichelle on Nov 17, 2007 11:39:31 GMT -5
What does everyone think of the OttP DVD?
I was very pleased to get to see the movie again (I'm thinking the Voldy/Dumbly wand dualing scene is my all time favourite potter movie scene).
I was a little disappointed with the extras though, not many additional scenes & there's usually more featurettes. Haven't worked up the energy to watch the one about 'how a good edit makea a good film' or whatever its called, sounds as interesting as helping Filch clean the trophy room...
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Post by desraelda on Nov 17, 2007 20:13:29 GMT -5
What does everyone think of the OttP DVD? I was very pleased to get to see the movie again (I'm thinking the Voldy/Dumbly wand dualing scene is my all time favourite potter movie scene). I was a little disappointed with the extras though, not many additional scenes & there's usually more featurettes. Haven't worked up the energy to watch the one about 'how a good edit makea a good film' or whatever its called, sounds as interesting as helping Filch clean the trophy room... Lucky UK dwellers. You get the DVD a whole month before we do. But I've pre-ordered from Amazon. I think the best part of the Atrium scene was Harry's possession by Voldy. Dan could have gone so over the top in that scene, but he played it beautifully. And I loved the way they had the sight of his friends brining him out of it. I was wondering how they would handle his inner thoughts about Sirius in that scene, but they handled it just right. Looking forward to seeing the whole thing again (next month!!!), both the good and the bad, and the seen and unseen.
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Post by maria8081 on Nov 21, 2007 12:09:11 GMT -5
When I saw the original posting I thought it was a mistake did not realize you guys get it a month a head. I am looking forward to seeing it again. I was able to catch it with the 3-D ending at one of the I-MAX Theaters which was unbelievable. It was a three hour drive but worth every second of it for the effects. Looking forward to seeing what they do with the next movie.
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