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Post by abtibbet on Aug 3, 2005 21:15:08 GMT -5
I thought we should have a general area to discuss the newest installment to the Harry Potter series: "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" so that we could keep all spoilers in here.
Discuss away! and beware of **SPOILERS!**
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Post by EmmyMik on Aug 3, 2005 21:19:40 GMT -5
Good idea! I wasn't quite sure how to work the whole Harry Potter thing (as I'm new to this whole moderatin' business), but this seems like a good idea.
Anyway, Alan *must* play Snape in this movie. Seriously...
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Post by abtibbet on Aug 3, 2005 21:38:13 GMT -5
Good idea! I wasn't quite sure how to work the whole Harry Potter thing (as I'm new to this whole moderatin' business), but this seems like a good idea. Anyway, Alan *must* play Snape in this movie. Seriously... I know...if he doesn't play Snape in the HBP movie, that would be disastrous (sp?). Alan Rickman is Snape. If they changed actors, I know I'd be sitting through the movie going, "Where's Snape? That's Snape? What the heck? I want Alan back!" No one but Alan Rickman's Snape can kill Dumbledore! lol ;D By the way, I'm sure you're going to be a great moderator!  |
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Post by EmmyMik on Aug 3, 2005 22:06:35 GMT -5
I'll be extremely disappointed if someone else plays Snape in the movie. Extremely.
The interesting thing about this book is that I kept on thinking about the possible movie as I was reading it (and I rarely did that with OotP). It seemed to play more like a movie in my mind. The suspense, the intruige, the total awesomeness of it all.
(as you can tell, I really loved the book)
Edited to add:
I love how the banner ads at the top of the page are rather fitting. What can I say, I'm easily amused...
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Post by abtibbet on Aug 4, 2005 9:06:04 GMT -5
Lol, the banner ads are fitting, aren't they? As I was reading HBP, I also thought about how the movie of the book would be. The end is going to be pretty dramatic. I don't know if I'll be able to stand Dumbledore being killed.  I think we get our first experience seeing someone killed in the GoF movie. Hopefully they won't ruin Cedric's death or Dumbledore's by cutting it short or something like that. Cedric's death was quick, but still... |
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Post by slythy on Aug 5, 2005 9:22:15 GMT -5
This was the first book where I've actually seen Rickman as Snape while I read ... it'll be the performance of his career. He has to do this film.
God, this book was the biggest shock. My favourite character killing my second favourite character. I'm still in the 'Snape is Somehow Innocent' camp, although I'm careful where I parade that opinion of CoS, the anti-Snapers are scary people :\
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Post by mugglemichelle on Aug 5, 2005 10:04:11 GMT -5
I agree, I cannot convince myself that Snape has been Voldemort's spy all this time, its too obvious, too predictable. I'm definitely in the 'Snape is a goodie' camp, although I do have my wobbly moments when I doubt myself!
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Post by abtibbet on Aug 5, 2005 11:22:59 GMT -5
I know. I really want to believe Snape is still good. I don't want Dumbledore to have died by the hand of the man he put so much trust into! I also want to know the specifics on why Dumbledore trusted Snape so much. Oh I hope Snape is good! You never know. Maybe he'll end up helping Harry defeat Voldemort. hmmm...and Draco might help, too. Did anyone else feel sorry for him in that scene where he was crying in Myrtle's bathroom?
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Post by TigerSnake on Aug 6, 2005 10:45:36 GMT -5
I agree. Snape has to be good. And Rickman has to play him. But he won't look the part. You know, he's not getting younger... *ducking as people throw stuff my way* Anyway, I've tried to come up with various theories that would prove Snape is still DD's man through and through. (Oh boy, that line is going to become a cliché soon) They can be found at CoSforums. If you want to take a look, be my guest: Snape wasn’t suspected because Vance is hiding Why didn’t Snape rat out Lupin to Greyback? |
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Post by slythy on Aug 6, 2005 11:03:14 GMT -5
Me too ... I don't believe that a man as clever as Dumbledore would just allow a sorry tale of remorse and regret to sway him to trust someone he knew not only to be a skilled Occlumens, but a Death Eater...
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Post by squirrelywrath on Aug 6, 2005 11:58:18 GMT -5
I am going to play devils advocate here.. I think Snape IS working for the dark Lord. Ultimately a Slytherin will always save his own neck, and that is exactly what he did. If he was working with Ddore, he would have protected him,not killed him.
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Post by mugglemichelle on Aug 6, 2005 12:08:08 GMT -5
But what about the unbreakable vow he made with Narcissa? My wacko theory is that he had to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore knew this, because he entered into this vow and to continue being spy and working for the Order he couldn't not kill him.
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Post by winky22 on Aug 6, 2005 15:20:16 GMT -5
I am going to play devils advocate here.. I think Snape IS working for the dark Lord. Ultimately a Slytherin will always save his own neck, and that is exactly what he did. If he was working with Ddore, he would have protected him,not killed him. I don't believe that at all. Check out my sig, if he was a person trying to save his own neck he wouldn't have stood infront of them, protecting them. For all he knew Lupin could have pounced on him any second. He didn't just stand infront of them either he has his hands around them tightly (hmmm ;D). I think DD was dying maybe from his hand maybe from something else. Snape and DD are both excellent in reading minds (can't spell the word so i wrote the easy word out) when DD was pleading he was pleading for Snape to kill him. Do any us really think that DD would have pleaded for his life because i don't think he would. He was reading his mind "kill me, kill me" I can't hear it now. Remember Hagrid saying DD and Snape were having an aurgument and Snape didn't want to do something, he didn't want to kill DD but DD knew it had to be done, he just knew.  |
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Post by TigerSnake on Aug 6, 2005 15:26:26 GMT -5
I agree; DD would never beg for his life to be spared. He's not scared of death, so what is he doing pleading for his life for?
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Post by ringo on Aug 6, 2005 15:38:05 GMT -5
;)Im sure that Snape is not as evil that JK has made him out to be,and I do not beleive for a second that our dear Severus wanted to do what he did,I think that it is all a very clever plot,and I am only hoping that I have it right,because if Severus turns bad,then I shall be very unhappy....
Hiya Winky22 and to all you other guys,nice to see you all,to see you nice...
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Post by TigerSnake on Aug 6, 2005 15:42:15 GMT -5
I was wondering what you guys thought when Snape said those two words, "Ava..." *shudders*
When I read the part where Snape kills DD, I was in shock. So much so that I hardly did anything for like 2 days afterwards. When I got online, finally, I was so happy to see people still standing by him saying he's good. *tear* Actually, the thought of Snape being somehow good never crossed my mind until I started reading the theories in Mugglenet and CoSforums. Well, good thing for the Internet, huh?
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Post by winky22 on Aug 6, 2005 15:44:39 GMT -5
;)Im sure that Snape is not as evil that JK has made him out to be,and I do not beleive for a second that our dear Severus wanted to do what he did,I think that it is all a very clever plot,and I am only hoping that I have it right,because if Severus turns bad,then I shall be very unhappy.... Hiya Winky22 and to all you other guys,nice to see you all,to see you nice... I will give you a Brucie bonus for that  DD would have never begged for his life, never i say! Plus he (snape) was very determind that he wasn't a coward which Harry called him when he was running away. He's not a coward at all he must have had alot of guts to do what he did because he certainly did not want to do it! |
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Post by winky22 on Aug 6, 2005 15:47:51 GMT -5
I was wondering what you guys thought when Snape said those two words, " Ava..." *shudders* When I read the part where Snape kills DD, I was in shock. So much so that I hardly did anything for like 2 days afterwards. When I got online, finally, I was so happy to see people still standing by him saying he's good. *tear* Actually, the thought of Snape being somehow good never crossed my mind until I started reading the theories in Mugglenet and CoSforums. Well, good thing for the Internet, huh? That is how i felt exactly Serously you have just discibed everything i went through after finishing the book (with great difficultly i may add because my eyes were streaming!) |
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Post by ringo on Aug 6, 2005 15:57:40 GMT -5
![]() [/img]What do points make??You made me laugh out loud Winky22.. I remember reading that part when I was in the park at a picnic,and I threw the book on the grass and got really upset that he had done that,I went off and played a game of footie with the kids,and then cooled off,and picked it up and carried on reading,and then re-read it again that night,and came to a totally different conclusion to the one I had when I originally read it,I now do think that under no circumstancies would DD EVER plead,he stood up against LV,and I am sure that he and Snape understood each other when they "gazed" at each other...Also,why didnt Snape kill Harry???He could off,I mean,he could have killed Hermoine,Flitwick,but he didnt,if he was a cold,callous killer,then why not just go out and be ruthless,the book is very cleaverly written,and all credit to JK,even though at the time I wanted to have a small word with her.... 
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Post by TigerSnake on Aug 6, 2005 15:58:37 GMT -5
I wasn't crying (I cried later during the funeral). But it felt like the wind was taken out of me. My heart was beating really fast too b/c my favorite character just killed the coolest old dude I've ever known! It was truly surreal.
Funny how books make us feel.
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I think we get our first experience seeing someone killed in the GoF movie. Hopefully they won't ruin Cedric's death or Dumbledore's by cutting it short or something like that. Cedric's death was quick, but still...
